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Beer : Pi Ju

Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:19 AM EDT
health, china, beer
By usa1

of course the empty center Harbin is my favorite

Budweiser clone, the look and taste(?) of the genuine

winner of better use as an ashtray award, terrible stuff

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Being in China and my love for the golden nectar I have come across numerous brands. Many very good Harbin, Tseng Tao, and Snow. Others not so good, and others so bad they cant be used for a beer shampoo on a dog. Trying over thirty different Chinese brands, still my favorite is Harbin, followed by Tseng Tao. As in the USA there are the national brands (Bud, Miller, and Coors), but also as in the USA there are regional brands and microbreweries. Some useful information Chinese beers such as Tseng Tao and Harbin have been brewed in China since 1900, both breweries are English and or German designed and the beer formulation is the same. Snow and Kingstar are breweries designed post 1990 and also very good. Most breweries from the late forties to the late seventies in China are not of European or American design and the beer taste is likewise. Many of the regional breweries are from this era and sometimes the beer is good but most of the time very bad.

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usa1

cheers

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:15 AM EDT
rls8r

I don't know what your experience has been, but I've found that most of the 'real' Chinese beers (and wines) are not drinkable. However, I like Yanjing beer when I'm in Beijing and Zhujiang when I'm further south. I haven't tried (or even seen) Snow and Kingstar - are they regional beers? I'm off to China (Beijing and Chengdu) again in a few weeks, so I'll look for them.

PS: I think it's "Tsingtao" and it's "pi jiu". Harbin was originally Russian - not English or German. It's owned (at least partially) by Anheuser-Busch InBev now, but it does use German yeast, though.

Cheers!

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:07 AM EDT
Lkessler

I actually drank Tsing Tao, and I think it's a bit weird tasting, but passable as beer.

But my favorite is Sapporo. A fabulous beer with very little aftertaste... And, for me, well worth the extra money I spend when I drink it. Which reminds me--with this baby coming soon, I'm looking forward to my first Sapporo in 9 months with great eagerness! :D

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:29 AM EDT
usa1

Yanjing third from the left. I also enjoy it but Harbin to me is very easy going down and no after taste.

Worst to date is the local Kai Feng brand, the bottom photo.

Harbin is from China but hired brew-masters from Germany for the recipe and you are correct the vats and fermentation tanks originally from Russia.

Russian beer great stuff !!! I miss Barnaul Russia always great beer and strong 6 -9 percent. funny though the trendy beer in Russia while I was there was Brahma from Brazil, and this other beer Russian but it made a strange whistle sound when opened.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:29 AM EDT
usa1

Lkessler First congratulations on the upcoming event!!

Sapparo is a great Japanese beer, this is the one in the tall silver can and I useto always enjoy it very cold.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:37 AM EDT
usa1

Snow is national and a recent newcomer, actually becoming very popular in the last year

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:45 AM EDT
Lkessler

USA: thanks! I'll have to look for Snow! :)

Oh, and I've clipped this to: The Gutter Girls--we love our beer there. :)

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:54 AM EDT
usa1

thanks and I will visit Gutter girls since they also like beer

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:57 AM EDT
rls8r

The bottom photo looks like Tsingtao (at least, the first two characters on the bottle are Qing dao). Is Kai Feng a 'sub-brand' of Tsingtao?

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:57 AM EDT
Lkessler

rls8r: I believe you're right--but doesn't it say it in Western characters at the top? *just checking, because it was the one thing I noticed on the bottle--given my inability to read Chinese characters, that is... ;)*

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:00 AM EDT
rls8r

Yes, it does - and now that I've put my glasses on, I see it even has it in raised letters on the bottle itself.

The city of Kaifeng is in eastern Henan Province - near Shandong Province (Qingdao - the city where Tsingtao is brewed is in Shandong Province). So - I was wondering if Kai Feng beer is a local 'sub-label' of Tsingtao. Who knows!?

"Henan" = "south of the river"'; "Shandong" = "east of the mountain". Have to love the Chinese for their pragmatic naming of Provinces and other things.

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:03 AM EDT
usa1

yes it is an old bottle local breweries in Henan Province breweries will reuse bottles and sometimes the bottle will be green or clear and always with the past brands markings

but for 2 yuan cant expect the best LOL

The aft bottle on the right is Laotian beer this is a Tsing Tao side brand.

You mentioned the wine here Bei Ju you are right the stuff is rice white lightning. Last time I drank it was at a wake and after several toasts the corpse had more life in it than me.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:05 AM EDT
rls8r

HA! Yep - it takes a strong constitution to sit through a dinner drinking bai jiu! As a guest, I'm usually asked which drink I'd like to have for dinner and I always, always pick beer. It's generally greeted with some disappointment by the host - but I claim (truly) not to be able to hold my liquor, so the host and other guests generally accept my choice with minimal grumbling. Of the standard phrases that I know - I think that "sui bian" or "sui yi" (as alternatives to 'gan bei') are among the most useful.

I have two or three bottles of Maotai around here somewhere - I'm saving them for when I refinish some of my dining room chairs - it tastes like it would be great paint stripper.

Two kuai a bottle, huh? That's cheaper than Coke (as I recall). No - I guess you really can't expect much for that.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:49 AM EDT
Lkessler

I have two or three bottles of Maotai around here somewhere - I'm saving them for when I refinish some of my dining room chairs - it tastes like it would be great paint stripper.

Before I even had Tsing Tao, my hubby told me--it leaves a bizarre aftertaste... I'm guessing it would be a little like drinking embalming fluid, from what friends have told me.

I have no experience with embalming fluid drinks, but if they said so, they must know more than me! *LOL!*

  • 4 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
rls8r

LOL! Reminds me of that old SNL Shimmer 'commercial'.

I suppose Maotai can be both - a dinner drink AND embalming fluid!

  • 4 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:55 PM EDT
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GaryColumbus

Like moths to a light in the dead of night. Men will flock to BEER!

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:37 AM EDT
rls8r

Beer = liquid bread.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:01 AM EDT
Lkessler

I hope there's nothing wrong with some liquid bread... :D

  • 4 votes
#2.2 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:07 AM EDT
rls8r

Nope - nothing at all wrong with it as far as I'm concerned. I often prefer the liquid form.

  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:51 AM EDT
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Peter Faden

I like Tsing Tao. Not bad at all. The Blue Diamond is funny to me...haven't tried it, but the can makes me laugh.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:47 PM EDT
Lkessler

Peter: try Sapporo if you haven't. That's my fave beer--no aftertaste, and very tasty!

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:38 PM EDT
Peter Faden

Lucy...that's usually my go to beer when i get sushi, lol. That, Ki-rin, and Ichiban anyway...:)

  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:45 PM EDT
Lkessler

I like Ichiban, too. Haven't tried Ki-rin... I'll definitely try anything... *of course, I gotta wait 'til I'm all done with the baby--I've been missing too many things lately, but it's not for much longer.*

Of course, once in a while, I do get a hankering for a White and Tan. :)

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT
Leo Katz

I like Sapporo a lot. When I worked in Japan or visited I would drink a lot of it. Unfortunately it usually made me sick. The next morning after drinking 5 or 6 of the giant Japanese size Sapporos I invariably woke up with a terrible headache. Still don't understand it. Then again I used to have the same problem at beer fests in Germany in the morning after drinking four or five steins.

  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:22 PM EDT
Lkessler

Leo: can't blame you--hard not to like Sapporo! But, of course, if you drank stein-sized Sapporos (or larger!) I can see how come you'd feel a horror headache the next day...

Sapporo is awesome--but it's not without its side-effects... :D *ah, but we should all suffer for our drinking craft!*

Ben Franklin said: "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." The man couldn't be any more right about that! :)

  • 3 votes
#3.5 - Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:22 PM EDT
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